(keitai-l) Re: i-mode vs net

Not like me... I held on to my IDO phone for five years, and get a
"whopping" fifteen percent discount on my usage rate, which translates on
average to about 500 yen off per month. It took four years to get to that
discount rate, and I can't see any other benefits of having held onto it for
so long - other than I don't want to change my number. Seems to me that none
of the companies - well, IDO in any case - are really doing anything
substantial to retain their consumer base. As a "netrepreneur", I know that
if I showed a similar inability to retain customers in my business plan and
such a reliance on changing technology, every VC would laugh away any hope
of investing in me.
By the way, and this is apropos of nothing, I noticed IDO is changing their
name to AU. Given that their EZ web subscriptions are getting hammered
compared with J-Sky Net and I-mode, changing the name seems to me a little
like arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Unless this comes with any
particular service changes that I don't know about. Anyone have any insights
on that?

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net
> [mailto:keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net]On Behalf Of Eric Hildum
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 9:08 AM
> To: keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> Subject: (keitai-l) Re: i-mode vs net
>
>
> Customer retention is a major problem for all the carriers as people
> apparently rarely renew a contract. Instead, they simply buy a new service
> to get the latest set of features in the new phones.
>
> > From: jason.c.freedman@ac.com
> > Reply-To: keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:18:32 +0900
> > To: keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> > Subject: (keitai-l) Re: i-mode vs net
> >
> >
> > I don't know, I guess.  Anyone know how fast the turnover really is in
> > phones?
> >
> > Personally I try to keep my phone as long as possible, rather
> than spending
> > over 15000 yen regularly.
> >
> > My basic point was that there are 7Million iMode users and exactly none
> > currently support Java.  So you really have an installed base of 0.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net
> > 07/14/2000 07:47 AM MST
> > Please respond to keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> >
> > To:   keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> > cc:
> > Subject:  (keitai-l) Re: i-mode vs net
> >
> >
> > Would it really be crazy? As the turnover in keitai's is quite
> high already
> > due to styling, I would think that Java support will be rather rapidly
> > deployed....
> >
> > jason.c.freedman@ac.com wrote:
> >
> >> yes on all accounts.  Although Java will be supported in the
> near future
> > on
> >> new iMode phones (sounds like you'd be crazy to use Java now
> when people
> >> would need to upgrade hardware to support this feature (at a
> few hundred
> >> dollars a pop)).  Actually I think that this is a big issue with cell
> >> phones.  Unlike upgrades to browsers where MS or Netscape can just
> > support
> >> a new feature by downloading a new browser, with these phones
> you need to
> >> upgrade hardware.
> >>
> >> Changes the whole cost model for upgrades.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net
> >> 07/14/2000 01:29 PM CET
> >> Please respond to keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> >>
> >> To:   <keitai-l@appelsiini.net>
> >> cc:
> >> Subject:  (keitai-l) Re: i-mode vs net
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> If I'm right myself, I don't think i-mode supports javascript
> bacause the
> >> system is based on HTML 1.0 at the moment and also the memory
> allocation
> >> per
> >> page of data is only 5k, which puts a stretch on what content, smart or
> >> otherwise, which can be incorporated.
> >>
> >> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but thats what I know anyway!
> >>
> >> Matt
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "M. David" <davidm1@hotmail.com>
> >> To: <keitai-l@appelsiini.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:17 PM
> >> Subject: (keitai-l) i-mode vs net
> >>
> >>> I didn't see it on the i-mode pages, so just to check, i-mode does not
> >>> support
> >>> java script for now right?
> >>> This might be a good way to serve stuff to net browsers (MS, Netscape)
> >> vs.
> >>> i-mode.
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
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