hi Darren (1) I would not call 64 kb/s CSD a 3G technology. (2) I was talking from the service perspective instead of technology. ISDN and video call has been dreams of generations of engineers but dreams won't be fantastic or exciting if guaranteed to come true. cheers, Ken __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mailReceived on Tue Oct 26 20:21:42 2004