Nick, here is a good source of info/rumors on au/KDDI handsets http://www7.plala.or.jp/giorgio/new_Aseries.html have a guess of the size of the full-screen application area. think you'll need another set of data for the sub-display. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspxReceived on Mon Aug 12 07:56:27 2002