MMJ indicated today 504s will have cameras; as far as i know the ones so far don't... but the iShot (SH251) does: http://k-tai.ascii24.com/k- tai/news/2002/05/21/imageview/images685032.jpg.html what are the other specs for the '251' - is it a series or just sharp? >> NTT DoCoMo has responded to the phenomenal succes of rival's J-Phone and KDDI handset models by releasing the 504i with built-in camera features. Aside from offering speeds three time faster than Docomo's current models, screen fidelity on its new Matsushita P504i flip-top phone jumps to over 260,000 colors and is only 17mm thick. << http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0204/22/n_504.html http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/cda/article/showcase_top/0,,9536,00.html http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/new/contents/02/whatnew0521.html -- david 'dc' collier dc@gamelet.comReceived on Tue May 28 09:28:23 2002