(keitai-l) Re: determining what is an i-mode page

From: Nick May <nick_at_kyushu.com>
Date: 02/09/01
Message-id: <fc.000f76100004faf83b9aca00ac5decd6.4fb0a@kyushunet.com>
keitai-l@appelsiini.net writes:
>Actually - in rereading everyone's responses, I'm even more
>skeptical!  Some are seriously opposed to the idea, and I have to say that


I do not think anyone is opposed to the idea that "it would be good if
there was a standard way of identifying imode pages". 

Some are opposed to the idea of meta tags 'cos they add weight - others do
not want to use the chtml meta-tag ('cos it ain't strictly chtml).  Both
problems can be solved.

>I agree that it doesn't seem quite right for a third party to spearhead a
>standard.

If the third party is responding to the plea of a community to help create
a useful defacto standard, I do not see what is so wrong. We are adding
something useful where before there was nothing - quite different from
CHANGING an existing standard.

>Nonetheless, a standard (e.g., meta tag) would be ideal... (for more 
>than just search engines, right...?)  

Absolutely.

To those people who say a meta tag is too "heavy", consider the following

1) higher speeds/lower prices are just around the corner (HA! - cue
sarcastic laugh)...

2) We can add meta tags only to pages served up to the google crawler (as
long as it tells us it is from google). Everyone else would not have them
added to the page prior to delivery. So no additional weight. This assumes
your pages are dynamically generated of course - but more and more sites
are. (I have just seen this has been suggested by Craig Dunn)

3) With reference to another of Craigs suggestions I am very against any
system that presupposes that certain urls serve certain content types. I
have a site in dev. that uses identical urls to serve different content to
different clients based on the browser type. In general it just seems
"wrong" to  presuppose that a certain url will serve content in a set
format.

I tentatively go for looking for an 'imode" meta-tag....  And given that
chtml and imode_!chtml are so similar, look for the chtml meta tag too....

Your engine identifying itself is very important to dynamic sites so that
we can decide what content we want to give it...

I think this is a problem in search of a solution - google's help could
push a sensible solution - for now at least.

Nick





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