Gah! I was too harsh.... A wee note for the archives.... For some reason, some apps (eg the ogg player) don't like manual installs to a 702NK from a Mac. It may be the mac version of unsis, or possibly something more obscure... Done from VPC (Win2k) the ogg player worked fine, using halwin for the unsis. NickReceived on Mon Mar 28 19:54:31 2005