(keitai-l) Re: Brew vs. Java

I think Java on Brew is one of these 'announcement' things designed to look
good to the press.  I've owned Brew handsets and have NEVER seen a J2ME
runtime available for it.

In a way it's a shame.  Qualcomm's BREW is a nice security and eCommerce
system ... Why NOT deliver J2ME apps with it?

As to Brew vs. J2ME ... Maybe Sun should pay attention to actually getting
the KVM's tested and certified.  The situation right now is that even basic
language functions (like array bounds checking) are broken on some handsets.

William Volk
CEO, Bonus Mobile Entertainment
858 692 1124

> From: Sam Joseph <gaijin@yha.att.ne.jp>
> Organization: NeuroGrid http://www.neurogrid.net/
> Reply-To: <keitai-l@appelsiini.net>
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:47:16 +0900
> To: <keitai-l@appelsiini.net>
> Subject: (keitai-l) Re: Brew vs. Java
> 
> Hi Curt and all,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with running Java on
> top of Brew?
> 
> I have found various references to the possibility online:
> 
> http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=531591&messageID=3153282
> http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/11932
> http://brewforums.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?s=db2000c1bb4ee9007345abe71215cf
> 68&p=21468#post21468
> 
> With the last link suggesting that perhaps full distribution of "java
> over brew" apps is still not a reality.
> Anyone know more?  Actually gone through the process of getting java to
> run on brew?  Found a way to distribute their app?
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> CHEERS> SAM
> 
> Curt Sampson wrote:
> 
>> On The Register recently there was a pretty interesting interview
>> with Colly Myers, one of the creators of the Symbian OS. It touches
>> (though not by name) on quite a few things that are happening in Japan,
>> including Felica on phones and Brew vs. Java. One particularly good
>> quote:
>> 
>>    My point is that there is not a mass consumer market for C++
>>    applications, with the emphasis on consumer and C++. My theory is
>>    that any really successful C++ application will become a signature
>>    application and will end up being built into the phone. Opera is a
>>    perfect example.
>> 
>>    So there will be a large market for C++ applications but the
>>    market will be to ODMs [Original Device Manufacturers] and handset
>>    manufacturers, and possibly, in time, network operators. There will
>>    be a large consumer market for downloadable applications but it
>>    will be for smaller and lightweight applications and they will be
>>    in Java. They must be cost effective to download and they will have
>>    increasingly shorter shelf lives. It will be Java because a large
>>    target market must exist, and for mobile phones this will only be
>>    for Java MIDP phones.
>> 
>> The full interview is at:
>> 
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/21/colly_myers_interview/
>> 
>> cjs
>>  
>> 
> 
> 
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