(1) flipping P I think you meant P209iS, released in August 2000? http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_p209is.html I'm sorry I forgot that. thanks for correcting me. this is an example of bad design, P503i released on 2001/01/26 http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_p503i.html bad because: candy-bar has to be stretched to accomodate keypad and large LCD joystick actually provides poorer operability than simple flat keys. both found in Nokia designs. and they corrected it with this in May 2001 http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_p503is.html (2) 501i phones for record http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_f501i.html http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_n501i.html http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_d501i.html http://www.docomo-chugoku.co.jp/v/databook/mova/rain/d_p501i.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splashReceived on Wed Apr 21 18:19:16 2004