(keitai-l) Re: $BEz(B?:DRM for picture messaging

    I'm have no detail and I have no answer but it seems like a question that doesn't
need an answer.  So I'm just going to send a babbling response like one of
the many babbling responses I have seen on keitai-L based on my own
opinions and a few random facts, using "Hello Kitty" as the theme.

    1.  If the "Hello Kitty" is built into the Camera's borders
(as they sometimes are), the copyright agency is probably paid a large
fee, and since the frame automatically becomes part of the picture, the
distribution of the Hello Kitty Logo is no problem, in fact its a promotion.
All fees are probably paid beforehand.  If they aren't paid, the issue is probably
being argued on and on and on like the music + visual contents one is
(that one had just been definitely worked out {fact} like I think 1 or  2 months ago
{guess}).

    2.  If someone photos a "Hello Kitty Doll" and sends it to
a friend.... like protecting that is like not allowing people to
take a picture of a Hello Kitty Doll and send it to a friend, which
sounds like Orwellian silliness.
{2 is all opinion and I have no opinion on the opinion I presented}

    3.  Hello Kitty is getting so old now, soon it and many of the other
copyrights should slowly fall into the public domain, like Mickey Mouse
who is over 50, and soon their lawyers will fail in their ploys to extend
the ownership of copyright to infinity, which is a silly concept if you
think about it and will fail.  No one can really own an idea.  Ideas
are in peoples heads.  If I can draw Hello Kitty perfectly from memory
and do so for my own pleasure, how can someone else exert ownership
over the image in my head or stop me in all situations from drawing "Kitty".
{3 is all opinion so I agree with it}

    4.  There may be something that was attempted to be
placed in place on the Sony SO503i phone, as it rejects
random images at random when they don't have a copyright.
I can't see how you can write a program on a phone to exclude
a copyrighted image without some major major AI improvements.
I wonder whats going on in that SO503i pre camera phone that
rejects random images??? {4 is all opinion based on experience....
I've had strange image problems on the SO503i with the evil animated
lips for an music i-appli of yore!}

Morgan Lin wrote:

> Hi, John
>
> Did get any reply from other people about the DRM question?
> and Also i want to know the detail too.
>
> Thank u.
> morgan lin.
> 2002/12/25
>
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> ???: keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net [mailto:keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net]?? John Whelan
> ????: 2002?11?21? 0:26
> ???: keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> ??: (keitai-l) DRM for picture messaging
>
> Has anybody got any information about how the Japanese content providers,
> opcos and handset manufacturers tackle the thorny issue of Digital Rights
> Management in the area of picture messaging? I assume it is possible for
> consumers to purchase images such as comic strips, wallpapers and  cutesy
> animations (Hello Kitty).  Is there a mechanism to prevent the
> redistribution of these images to other handsets?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
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